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Sam Shepard: 'America is on its way out as a culture

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unday evening in Santa Fe and  Sam Shepard  and I are sitting at a downtown bar, drinking tequila and eating tacos. The light is low, the night warm and the conversation darts and dives while the bartender rattles the cocktail shaker and behind us the tables begin to fill. Already we have covered several pressing matters, including the merits of Chekhov ("I'm not crazy about him as a playwright… why are you going to bring a dead bird onstage?"), the qualities of greyhound piss ("like champagne" apparently), and the ancient Egyptian goddess Isis: "The way she turns into a bird! Unbelievable. You can't make that shit up." But now our conversation has turned to the subject of  True West , the play Shepard wrote in 1980,  now revived at the Tricycle theatre in London . Directed by Phillip Breen and starring Eugene O'Hare and Alex Ferns, the production first appeared at the Glasgow Citizens theatre last year,  earning much acclaim,  not least fr